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Q&A: Ray Besharah & Dave Brown discuss their riskiest work, Dicky Dicky Dream Factory

By Greggory Clark on June 14, 2017



dicky_dicky_dream_factoryDescribe your show in five words.

David Benedict Brown: We Make Dreams Come True

Ray Besharah: Ray And Dave Wanking Poetic

For those of us now intrigued… How would you describe the show? In any number of words.

Dave: We make your dreams come true by using your positive energy to fuel the Dream Factory. Watch or engage with us as we explore the world we live in through the guise of therapy and dream-making.

Ray: Below the surface, this piece is very thoughtful. It’s an exploration of social/political issues that plague us all in this crazy day and age, it’s our interpretation of masculinity today, and above all it’s a celebration of the bond between Dave and I.

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When people look at a show title like, Dicky Dicky Dream Factory, what do you think they see and think?

Dave: I hope that it inspires a silly curiosity.

Ray: I hope most Ottawa Fringe audiences recognize the Dicky Dicky name by now, and they know it’ll be silly. And what could a Dream Factory do but make dreams?

If you had to change the name of your show, what would you change it to?

Dave: Hootenanny!

Ray: I wouldn’t change a thing.

Is this show a Fringe first for venue Studio 203? Is the show at all site-specific? Did you rehearse in Studio 203 prior to tech rehearsal?

Dave: As far as I’m aware this is the first time anyone has used this room as a venue. We rehearsed in this venue with Kevin Orr, yes.

Ray: What Dave said.

Photo by Randy Smith

Photo by Randy Smith

Any other firsts for the Festival?

Dave: I think for myself this is the first time I have received polarized audience responses.

Ray: This is definitely the riskiest piece I’ve ever made. It’s a bit of an emotional rollercoaster for me, balancing the success of the theory behind the production with the day-to-day success of pleasing audiences.

What’s the most immature thing you do in Dicky Dicky Dream Factory?

Dave: I like to think that everything we do in this show demonstrates and evolved maturity, so I have trouble answering this question.

Ray: For all our silliness, this show is actually very mature in its approach. Though we layer each piece with our own brand of hilarity (which I guess could be interpreted as immaturity), there’s a deepness to what we do that some find really surprising. Sure, we play the dancing clowns who are here for your amusement, but while you’re disarmed by that charm we sneak in with a very important comment on something that’s very important.


“This is definitely the riskiest piece I’ve ever made. It’s a bit of an emotional rollercoaster for me…”


What is the most annoying question people ask you about Dicky Dicky Dream Factory?

Dave: See previous question.

Ray: I’m not annoyed by any questions. Obviously people are going to have questions about a show with this much implied interactivity, and we’re happy to answer them. We don’t give a lot of context in our publicity, and the unknown can be scary. However, I wish Ottawa audiences were a little more generally adventurous; people seem to need a lot of convincing to walk through our doors. We’re just lucky that the vast majority of people who opt in are eventually grateful they chose to do so. We know it’s not the show for everybody, though. It was a calculated risk.

What’s the dumbest thing you’ve done that actually turned out pretty well?

Dave: You’ll have to come see the show, but it involves a pitcher of water and a towel.

Ray: Following my heart instead of my head.

What’s the hardest lesson you’ve learned?

Dave: It can be difficult to encourage people to participate with you in an intimate theatre environment.

Ray: If Dave gets hungry, you better feed him. Like now.

What types of audience reactions or post-show conversations are you hoping to get after Dicky Dicky Dream Factory?

Dave: Any really. I want to talk to people and hear what they think about this show. I am interested in everybody’s perspectives.

Ray: On the surface, I want people to leave with a smile on their face and reflect on how enjoyable and unique the experience was. But it would be even better if people discussed the deeper meaning behind our antics.

Anything else you want audiences to know about the show?

Dave: Know that while we ask a great deal of trust from you, you’re always safe; our intentions are good and we just want you to enjoy yourselves.

Ray: Take a chance and step into your discomfort. It’s the only way to grow (in life, and in theatre).

Dicky Dicky Dream Factory is playing at the Ottawa Fringe Festival until Saturday June 17, 2017. Tickets cost $12 online and at the door. As there are only 15 tickets to every show, it’s recommended you buy yours in advance. Visit for the show schedule and box office info. Read reviews at